Ex-NMP Eugene and Zulkifli, Do You Think SPH Websites should Shut Down Too?

Former nominated members of parliament (NMP) Zulkifli Baharudin and Eugene Tan, who is also a Singapore Management University law professor, spoke to Today and agreed with the Media Development Authority (MDA)’s action of shutting down The Real Singapore (TRS) website.

I wrote to them to ask if they also believe that other government websites which carry falsehoods should be shut down.

*****

Eugene Tan SMU

Dear Mr Tan,

I read your comments in the Today newspaper regarding the shut down of The Real Singapore (TRS) website.

You said: “This is the first time that MDA has resorted to suspension, but when you put it against the backdrop of TRS’ alleged egregious conduct, it becomes more of a question of when (to suspend), rather than whether.”

You also said: “We must be mindful of the rapid and widespread reach that social media sites have. Ultimately, it’s Singaporeans who bear the consequences of their falsehoods.”

I would like to refer you to some links below:

From the above links, you can see that the following websites have also behaved “egregiously”.

  • STOMP: stomp.com.sg
  • The Straits Times: straitstimes.com
  • The New Paper: tnp.sg

Please also look at the links below:

As such, you can also see that the following websites have been spreading falsehoods:

  • The Straits Times: straitstimes.com
  • AsiaOne: asiaone.com

Today also quoted you as saying that, “The editors of the The Real Singapore appeared to have been testing the limits of the media regulator (and) that the MDA has demonstrated their resolve to tackle recalcitrant sites and deter potential copycats.”

As such, you appear to agree that The Real Singapore should be shut down.

I would thus like to ask if you would also agree that the following websites from the Singapore Press Holdings (SPH) should also be shut down, and their operations ceased, and whether you would be asking the authorities to shut them down.

  • STOMP: stomp.com.sg
  • The Straits Times: straitstimes.com
  • The New Paper: tnp.sg
  • AsiaOne: asiaone.com

The MDA’s actions of shutting down The Real Singapore has been seen as hypocritical by many Singaporeans, who feel that there are also other websites, such as the above-mentioned ones, which have been conducting their misdeeds but have been allowed to continue to operate.

Additionally, many Singaporeans also question the hypocrisy of why the government would charge The Real Singapore for Sedition but would not charged the above-mentioned websites for the similar “crimes” that they have committed.

This has given rise to the perception that the People’s Action Party (PAP)-run government is intentionally persecuting The Real Singapore because it is the top “alternative” news website and which has been on the forefront of exposing the misdeeds of the PAP, and that the PAP wants to shut down The Real Singapore to stop it from doing so.

Moreover, there is also the perception that the PAP continues to allow the state-controlled media, operated by SPH and Mediacorp, to continue to even spread falsehoods, because the PAP wants to use them as tools to spread its own propaganda.

I have also been on the receiving end of the falsehoods of their reporting.

If so, we should be “mindful of the rapid and widespread reach” because “ultimately, it’s Singaporeans who bear the consequences of their falsehoods”, as you have said.

I would like to ask if you think that the above-mentioned websites from SPH should also be shut down and have their operations ceased, and whether you would be asking the government to do so.

If the media observers who claim that The Real Singapore should be shut down but would still tolerate the existence of the state-controlled media to spread its propaganda, then it is worrying the state of Singapore.

And if we agree that such laws which exist to persecute are unfair, then these laws should be abolished, as I have written to the Attorney-General’s Chambers to do so.

I would like to know your further thoughts in this matter.

Thank you.

Roy

You can read Eugene Tan’s profile here.

*****

Dear Mr Zulkifli,

I read your comments in the Today newspaper regarding the shut down of The Real Singapore (TRS) website.

You said: “People think because they’re from the Internet, we should not be too harsh to them, and we should expect a certain level of inaccuracies. I don’t buy that.”

You also said: “Whether you’re a website or not, you have the responsibility — like any other media — to present honest, factual reporting of events.”

I would like to refer you to some links below:

From the above links, you can see that the following websites have not behaved “responsibly”.

  • STOMP: stomp.com.sg
  • The Straits Times: straitstimes.com
  • The New Paper: tnp.sg

Please also look at the links below:

As such, you can also see that the following websites have been “inaccurate” in their reporting and have not “present(ed) (the) honest, factual reporting of events”:

  • The Straits Times: straitstimes.com
  • AsiaOne: asiaone.com

You appear to agree that The Real Singapore should be shut down.

I would thus like to ask if you would also agree that the following websites from the Singapore Press Holdings (SPH) should also be shut down, and whether you would be asking the authorities to shut them down.

  • STOMP: stomp.com.sg
  • The Straits Times: straitstimes.com
  • The New Paper: tnp.sg
  • AsiaOne: asiaone.com

You also said that, “Whether you’re a website or not, you have the responsibility.” As such, do you agree that the operations of the SPH should also cease?

The MDA’s actions of shutting down The Real Singapore has been seen as hypocritical by many Singaporeans, who feel that there are also other websites, such as the above-mentioned ones, which have been conducting their misdeeds but have been allowed to continue to operate.

Additionally, many Singaporeans also question the hypocrisy of why the government would charge The Real Singapore for Sedition but would not charged the above-mentioned websites for the similar “crimes” that they have committed.

This has given rise to the perception that the People’s Action Party (PAP)-run government is intentionally persecuting The Real Singapore because it is the top “alternative” news website and which has been on the forefront of exposing the misdeeds of the PAP, and that the PAP wants to shut down The Real Singapore to stop it from doing so.

Moreover, there is also the perception that the PAP continues to allow the state-controlled media, operated by SPH and Mediacorp, to continue to even spread falsehoods, because the PAP wants to use them as tools to spread its own propaganda.

I have also been on the receiving end of the falsehoods of their reporting.

I would like to ask if you think that the above-mentioned websites from SPH should also be shut down and have their operations ceased, and whether you would be asking the government to do so.

If the media observers who claim that The Real Singapore should be shut down but would still tolerate the existence of the state-controlled media to spread its propaganda, then it is worrying the state of Singapore.

And if we agree that such laws which exist to persecute are unfair, then these laws should be abolished, as I have written to the Attorney-General’s Chambers to do so.

I would like to know your further thoughts in this matter.

Thank you.

Roy

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42 comments

  1. lea xian loon

    PAP will shut down whatever is threatening itself, even if it means murdering the first wife Mdm Wong Ming Yang in favour of a ‘river demoness’; and parting of testicles

  2. bah chor mee

    Many of our facebook accounts have also been disabled by PAP b/c they cannot handle the truth when they’re posted.

    But you know what? Netizens create more accounts and websites to dig up closet-skeletons of PAP!

  3. THE SIXTEN

    钱是万能的 ! 当他提拔一个人的时候 , 这个人顿时身价百倍,好比一个天天暴涨的股票, 土鸡立刻变凤凰,野鸭立刻变百万富翁。

    他借口提拔为名,直接送钱,贿赂了新加坡全部法官,检察官,媒体总裁,部长,CEO。 这些拿到钱的人,立刻有奶便是娘, 没有一个是有良心。

    这就是李光耀的遗产 !当他要害人的一根手指还没伸出来,全部拿到钱的法官,检察官,媒体总裁,部长,CEO立刻替他执行害人的步骤。

    那么钱从哪里来 ? 全部在国民养老金的大楼里面 。谁可以进去拿 !谁授权给他拿 ?

    就是这批法官,检察官,媒体总裁,部长,CEO。 没有一个是有种的人 !

    几年前, 一个美少女多次偷窃, 好色之徒的杨邦孝大法官却放她一码。 再次偷窃,再次放人, 现在的少年Amos 没偷没抢, 你们为什么不放他 !两种规格对待, 连检察官也被收买的国家, 看看上面的录音带,9年前的呼吁都没有改变这批恶棍,不如一把火烧掉他们 ! 当没有钱的时候, 看你怎么搞贿赂迫害国民, 不如重头来过, 重新建立 新加坡共和国 !

      • @ jackfruit

        ” Whoa …so many foreigners…” ?
        that question you must ask your man why import ?
        but only few local people know you’re the bitch inside the PM’ office.
        why PM hire a whore inside his office ?

      • R is Jim, also is LHL's office secretary

        We knew the real PM through his office bitch ‘s footprintsin here, you bitch told us how was his personality , how his office team work, what ‘is their private relations with you bitch, how he cultivated gangs, everything through you bitch ‘s footprintsin here .

        we will continue later.

      • THE SIXTEN

        外國人怎麼啦 !
        國父把外國人拿進來,
        你身為總理的秘書, 現在要罵外國人。
        豈不是罵國父嗎 ?
        李總理的秘書怎麼左手打右手啊 ?

        李總理說要和諧, 你女秘書說要起訴,要賠償,不然不罷休。
        你們內部到底是不和呢, 還有總理講騙話啊 ?

        你女秘書靠偷看國民隱私, 再拿出來販賣的罪行, 導致總理名譽破產啦 !

      • THE SIXTEN

        所以你們派警察進來搗亂, 把人家的銀行凍結了,店面拍賣了,公寓拿走了,全家趕出新加坡啦, 警察部長根本不理報案, 全部的私人財產拿去供養這批法官和警察的薪水啦, 好意思再次出來競選總理嗎 ?

        我們是目擊者,有資格做出判斷,李總理不可以再做總理啦, 他過去什麼事都不做,只當自己住在世外桃源。檯面上講的是騙話而已。

        國人以為政府幫外國人, 其實不是這樣, 他們除了要錢, 既不幫本地人,也不幫外來人。他們什麼都不幫。

        看到他最近和一個小孩握手, 再看看到把一個孩子抓起來, 真是渾身起雞皮疙瘩, 就好像昨天剛殺了一個人,今天和另一個人握手, 你怎看這只手 ? 毛骨悚然啊 !

        如果沒有被你們黑幫的折磨, 人家可能還留下了來受罪, 都說老年的時候甜蜜才是真真的甜蜜,人家現在失去的一切在一個民主國家得到了補償, 唯一的心願就是要看到李總理放過 Roy , Amos,Hanhuihui 等5位新加坡人。

        不然, 時刻與Roy 站在一起 !要求李總理為瀆職罪負責。

  4. THE SIXTEN

    如果李显龙有政治素质, 他应该出来对 Roy 和大众说:

    ” 我们证明给你看公积金与淡马锡的利益挂钩, 我老婆只是拿高级公务员的薪资,她和我没有从淡马锡里面拿取红利。”

    如果李显龙有政治家的胸怀,他应该对Amos 说:

    ” 你将后悔你对我父亲的冒犯, 因为我不会把你抓起来。”

    什么都做不到。 明明是李显龙要抓这个孩子,非一口咬定是耶稣要捉孩子 !

    去年利用残疾孩子, 今年初利用残疾妇女, 现在把耶稣当成他的抓人理由。 而且他照样吃喝不误, 恨不得扇他一记大耳光, 送他去与LKY 陪葬, 因为字典里找不到一个字可以让他如此嫁祸于圣灵的罪恶 !

  5. THE SIXTEN

    在23 March 2015凌晨,联合早报宣布李光耀去世的消息下方的民意观点表达一览,竟然有高达5千以上的新加坡人数点击“ 高兴”, 听说有人把它截屏下来,几个小时后睡醒再回来发现, 早报把这一览民意调查隐蔽了起来。

    这不是一个孩子的错, 这是至少台面上5000 以上人数的真实心理反映。还未包括台下面的统计, 如果人类在没有逼迫的情况下做出反应的,即当痛恨累计超出人类最大忍耐极限后所发出的吼叫声 ,人类的喜怒哀乐七情六欲等生理反应必须受到法庭保护, 而不是通过黑帮掌控的媒体, 通知观众说, 是耶稣要他们要惩罚人类作出的生理反应 。

    如果黑帮在人们生气的时候不准发怒, 那么国民也有权限制他们快乐 !

  6. THE SIXTEN

    50年前國際上沒有人理睬李光耀, 可是他很重视到外国去认识政治家和媒体,他對他們說 :『 我是受到20萬新加坡人民的委託而來。』

    一聽說LKY到受到人民的囑託而來,提倡民主的外國元首立刻重視。

    這次,希望工人党和民主党的主席, 也要学习李光耀的手法, 组成代表团,到美国国会或白宫去走走看看,到英国国会去拜访一下,到能获得影响力的民主国家去访问, 向李显龙夫妻一样,请他们邀请你们去领奖, 老老实实解说你们的财务困境,反应包括Roy, Amos 在內的青少年的被抓和你們的無助, 還有互聯網被關閉的真相, 國民希望改變的願望,将一定会获得他们无偿的政治募捐, 回来为新加坡人民效力。

    你們要挺起胸來,千万双无辜的眼睛期盼着你们,在國人眼裡你們與黑幫比較, 你們干干净净,阳光灿烂 。

  7. Xmen

    I would like to bring up the Straits Times story that the young North Korean leader had his uncle torn apart by ravenous dogs while he watched. Why wasn’t the rumor mill shut down? This is orders of magnitude more malicious news reporting than what TRS could have dreamed of accomplishing.

    All those PAPies who claim that Straits Times only reports facts are LIARS. They are fixing any anti-PAP websites and blogs. They won’t even spare a 16-year-old dissident.SD

    Same for the PAP stooges, they can no longer think critically even if they hold PhD’s.

    • R

      Xmen, surely you know that this story of the North Korean leader was being reported throughout the world not only in Singapore.

      • Xmen

        Yes, the ST story was picked up by news agencies and reported worldwide. It is no different than the kid who doctored an image of the PMO message to declare the death of the old man. Btw, the kid got arrested. On the other hand, ST was not even cited for rumor mongering. That story could have invited missiles from the North.

      • R

        It is first reported by Wen Wei Po, the Chinese media outlet with the story.
        Around the same time the Straits Times ran with the Wen Wei Po’s, the New York Times, citing South Korean intelligence, reported that some of Jang’s associates were executed using antiaircraft guns while Jang himself was killed “by more traditional means.”

        The point is ST is reporting the news from Wen Wei Po. New York Times was doing the same. All the major agencies pick up the story. You said the report on LKY demise was done as a PMO message. A rumour pass as real.

        Nobody know really what happen… the ST does not pretend to know also. That is the difference.

        Only my view. Forgive me if it is wrong.

      • Xmen

        Seriously, what s this outlet called Wen Wei Po? Why doesn’t ST print stories from extremist newsletters? This is not journalism. Now everyone who got burned by ST will fact check everything from ST. IMHO, they should have known better. This is the 153rd outlet.

      • LHL's office secretary is here

        Xmen,
        when LHL’s office secretary is here, Please do not hesitate to slap her get out !

  8. 看看李光耀和李显龙如何坑害中国和上海

    李家父子心中的头号敌人只有中国,只有上海。为了打击中国打击上海,他什么卑鄙的手段都使用过了:

    •军事上:他与美国结盟,新加坡是美国最重要地的海空军事基地。连日韩都不部署的美国最先进的濒海战斗舰和F35战斗机早在多年前就部署在新加坡。
    •外交上:他在东盟鼓动菲律宾、越南与中国为敌,挑拨中国与印度、孟加拉国、斯里兰卡、缅甸的关系。
    •在经济上,他干扰中国的瓜达尔港工程,干扰中国的缅甸和俄罗斯输油管工程,干扰中国的克拉运河工程,上海的洋山港工程自贸区项目……。
    •在文化上,李家父子早就厌恶了孔子崇尚基督教文化。
    •在政治上,李家父子惟恐中国不乱,为“法L功”提供舞台,凡是去新加坡旅游的中国 人,都会被导游带去参观“法L功”活动。另一方面,新加坡却禁止本国公民信仰“法L功”。说明新加坡知道这个功不好,因此才禁止本国公民信仰。可是为什么要让导游带中国游客去听,而且都是偷偷地,不在游程中标明,这又是为什么呢?大家真的应该好好想想。不仅如此,为了应对万一上海自贸区和克拉运河取代新加坡的世界航运中心的地位,原先严格禁赌的新加坡开设了世界最大的赌场,同样地,赌场也是大力吸引中国游客却禁止本国公民进入。这又是为什么?这才是李家父子对中国人的真实用心。他和那个当年用鸦片毒害中国的大英帝国相比,完全是有过之而无不及。

    综上所述,李家父子要坑害中国是出于自保,从他们的角度看与中国的关系是你死我活,这个可以理解。可是,从中国的角度却不是,中国是泱泱大国,不会与一小国你死我活,不理就是了。但是万不可把狼请回家教育孩子,把蛇供成仙……。

    请看原文:— 看看李光耀和李显龙如何坑害中国和上海
    http://sahabatrakyatmy.blogspot.sg/2015/04/blog-post.html

  9. yawn

    No more money for you now TRS shut down. You need to look for new sugar daddy otherwise back to your fuxxing reality and work. Good for you! This you learn to be a real man!

    • lee xian loong

      WHAT?! JUST BECAUSE I LOST MY BALLS MEANT THAT I, LEE XIAN LOONG, IS NO LONGER A MAN? 🙂

  10. R

    What is the problem that ST reported that you did not bail Amos because you are going to JB/Malaysia. You said so in yr facebook. In fact you said yes, I was still Malaysia therefore I cannot bail Amos.
    If you did not intend to bail out Amos, then you have cause to complain.

  11. PAPer Tiger

    “李光耀终于“驾崩”了。说“驾崩”是因为他是新加坡的皇帝,已经把“皇位”传给了自己的儿子。估计儿子死了还会像朝鲜的金家那样把位子传给孙子。它们二国太像了,都是独裁国家,唯一的区别仅仅在意识形态”

    LKY cannot be a dictator in hell now, PAPer IB, agree?

    • Rotten PAPayas

      Has the mata mata arrested tin pei ling yet, for her actions in GE 2011? Not yet? Maybe they are too busy checking out the new prata shops by Nathan?

    • Rotten PAPayas

      We find the begging of sympathy votes by Lhl using his kong kah kiao, more hilarious 🙂 :

      “仔细观看各种媒体的报道,可以发现有两大方面的特点。一是利用各国的名人讲话,把李光耀制造成国际领袖,然而外国的吊唁之语,尽是对死人的客套话,谀美之辞不需本钱,并非真心实话。这种报道,除了替李光耀涂脂抹粉外,还可以反过来使国内的民众产生崇拜的心理,对大选是十分有利。一是在18个地区设立悼念活动中心,由议员出面互动,让民众进行吊唁,把执政党的领袖李光耀的形象植入人心,目的当然是为了大选。

      李显龙在民众吊唁过程中,不断出现与民众接触,看唁文,致谢意,嘴带微笑,这和他在致悼辞时的哽咽有异曲同工之妙,也叫人想起李光耀曾经数次在电视面前哽咽的情状。这种哽咽,对民众能够产生深度的同情效应,对于大选当然十分有利。”

  12. Rotten PAPayas

    People should check out the “decoration” of LKY books with facts, in NLB libraries.

    “因为新加坡的成功并不是李家父子所说的“靠勤劳致富”,完全是靠地理位置,靠一百多年前一位英国人的“自由港”设计,靠美国驻军制约中国”

    “李家父子要坑害中国是出于自保,从他们的角度看与中国的关系是你死我活,这个可以理解。可是,从中国的角度却不是,中国是泱泱大国,不会与一小国你死我活,不理就是了。但是万不可把狼请回家教育孩子,把蛇供成仙……。”

    LHL and famiLEE + PAPer IB dogs, goo luck in continuing to fight against international internet community 🙂

  13. bah chor mee

    “It is a dictatorship where previously Lee Kuan Yew and after his death now his son, who strut around like prize rooster behaving as if the island belongs to him and he can do just about anything he wants to anybody.

    As he doesn’t want anyone to criticize him, he arrests and sues anyone he wants for defamation of character in his Kangaroo courts.

    He abolishes all constitutional guarantees rights including freedom of speech and expression.

    He controls the entire press and only allows propaganda.

    He uses fear to subjugate his island.

    People who criticize him are fired from their jobs and thrust on to the street.

    The only ones who can possible live with their souls intact are the ignorant noodle seller at Toa Payoh food stalls who is content if he as 3 meals a day, a television at home and his children can go to state controlled schools to be indoctrinated in state propaganda. “

  14. bah chor mee

    “Lee Kuan Yew’s Fascist island city state. A scary resemblance to Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germany”

  15. bah chor mee

    In Singapore today there are no free trade unions. Hitler murdered trade unionists he did not like. Lee instead, removed them from their posts and deprived them of jobs. He created a new organization called NTUC under which all unionized workers would come under. NTUC itself became a branch of the government, and directly under a government minister.

    Effectively there was no longer free trade unions in Singapore. Hitler in Germany did exactly the same. The purpose of both Hitler and Lee Kuan Yew was to make working conditions more attractive to employers. The rights of workers was not part of the equation.

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